
Doctorate for Research Archaeology?
February 28, 2008Purpose/Update: If you’re wondering why I created this blog, perhaps this dialogue will answer your question. This is a comment that Steve (a separate entity from myself) left on Homer’s blog. Steve respectfully defended himself, because the bloggers, I’ll discuss on this blog, keep associating us as the same person. How can Homer be upset over my entry, below, when he validates our anger in his thread? He perpetuates it and then plays the victim, IMHO. As far as linking work and names, I simply followed the lead of the troll blogs which he participates on! (The Wife of Billy Boy Dee & The Whitecotton Tales). And Homer, I should’ve known you’d search for an opportunity to make this a drama, dragging people – other than myself into it. I clearly left comments open on this thread so that you could’ve answered me. I told you I wasn’t trying to stir up trouble, and I meant it. Clearly you are though, and this blog will continue. And on a tangent – Honestly, Homer, I don’t think it’s a bad picture of you. I think you have a great smile, which is why I selected it:
Well, what’s interesting is how you guys keep clinging all of us together. Joshua is a 52 year old man, I’m a 39 year old man. That is Joshua’s blog, not mine. If you go to my blog, you can clearly see that I am trying to wash my hands clean of all this drama. No where on my blog will you find any of you guys linked in any way, anymore. There’s a lot of things going on behind the scenes, which I know you’re aware of, that you don’t mention. That’s fine, you can tell half the story. But I am not Mark Whitecotton, neither is Josh or was The_Gay_Dude. We don’t know the guy. But no matter how much I state that, I’m told I’m lying. Yes, I resent being called a liar over and over, told my pictures don’t match, and that I lied about a girl dying. Because you’re incorrect. But what I’ve asked all along, is for all of you to leave me alone. Is that too much to ask? I appreciate the offer for Lemon Meringue, but if it were Key Lime, I’d take you up on your offer.
Steve | Homepage | 02.28.08 – 9:03 pm | #
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BANNED! I won’t have any more of this shit, Mark Whitecotton.
homer | Homepage | 02.28.08 – 9:34 pm | #
I did find this information where being classified as a research archaeologist requires a doctorate? In which case, it wouldn’t make sense for a Master’s degreed, blogger-archaeologist to boast, under comments, of being a scientist. I mean, computer science is a science, and I use a computer, therefore I’m a scientist? I don’t think it works like that. Then again, this information is by United Kingdom standards. I’ll see what I can find regarding Americans. Actually, in this article, it states that Homer Thiel is a Historical Archaeologist (which seems to imply that it is an Arts & Humanities field, under Anthropology – not exactly the Sciences). The story also states that archaeologists are ASSISTED by scientists (like physicists - a non-humanities field). You know what? The more I think about it, this stuff is so trivial. I’m already losing interest in this research project. I wouldn’t want to give the appearance that I have no life, investigating other people’s business. And in all honesty, it’s incredibly self-righteous, of me, to single out a blogger, the way that I am. I’m so sorry for that. Anyhow, I’m sure some friendly archaeologist will educate me, if I’m wrong in my assumption. Because I have no desire to stir up trouble. I’m simply trying to figure out why Archaeologist, Homer Thiel of Tucson, Arizona (who is the 4th all-time referrer to Steve’s blog); a man with a Master’s degree, called himself a scientist? Is it to impress his blog friends? Hell, we all want to impress. That’s human, but misleading? I don’t know, I’m rambling, because it’s late. Maybe it’s just my age? Back in the day, I needed to go to med school to do many of the things that Dental Hygienists do now. It could be the same with other disciplines? Where a PhD. or medical degree can now be substituted with a Master’s (at a lower salary)? Not that there’s anything wrong with a lower salary or less education. I’m thinking out loud, and placing my foot in my mouth!

Oh, but before I bid goodnight, I want to congratulate this blogger for his hard work in working toward a Master’s. I was inspired by his post. I know he still has a little way to go, but I found his piece interesting! And Jimbo, believe me when I say that I am being genuine in my appreciation for your academic strivings. Because all you have to do is read this, to know that I don’t hold you in high regard. But I give credit where it is due.
In closing I’d like to quote a troll: “If “BOY” studies archaeology, and archaeology is a science, and people who study science are scientists, then “BOY” who studies archaeology is, therefore, a scientist.” The above quote is a classic example of a logical fallacy, something these trolls are very good at. Finally, Kudos (Sorry, I know you don’t like that word, Homer – but I do) to Steve for sticking to basics – by taking to private 9/10th’s of his entry. He took the advice of Brettcajun. Brett has been blogging for a while, and seems to know many of these people who harass us. And I could be wrong, but it seems these trolls are running out of ammunition? Seems the only insult hurled yesterday was a reference about ‘throwing up’? Maybe one should look at Steve’s comments for “The Truth about Honesty #2″ entry? And another thing, one of the trolls mentioned that her husband is starting to have ‘problems.’ Would not the sane & logical thing to do, be to turn off the computer – and help one’s spouse? I mean clearly, you no longer have an ‘audience.’ Just going to google shows how your lies go further and further down the roster. Seems more than myself have figured you out. Heck, Brett offering Steve unsolicited advice tells me that MANY are on to you. Well, at least, that’s my take on the whole thing.
Update: I’m disappointed. It’s almost 6p on 2/28, and I thought someone would’ve enlightened me. I mean, a troll mysteriously had something to say about it, but not a real blogger. Why did that troll take such interest in what I said? Makes me wonder who that person REALLY is. That troll sure got heated over my curiosities! Strange, odd, and perplexing?
Anyhow, if you’re curious over the troll blog, sorries. I will no longer link to malicious blogs; even to back up my story. Oh man, I just realized something! This is a no-comment blog. But this entry begs for a response. Like I said, I’m not looking to stir up trouble, and I was shocked to find a troll blog responding to this entry; as it had nothing to do with them (or does it?). Anyhow, I’ll allow comments for this post. But they must stick to the topic at-hand. My blog, my rules – and those who can’t follow, will be deleted.
Tags: Darin Scruggs of Phoenix, Arizona, Homer Thiel of Tucson, Arizona, The Whitecotton Tales, The Wife of Billy Boy Dee
Hi,
You’re wrong about the science/scientist stuff. I say this as somebody who is a scientist. I have my doctorate from the Department of Biochemistry, Northwestern University (1984). That isn’t what makes me a scientist. What makes me a scientist is the fact that I have been working as one for my entire professional life, first as a biochemist and more recently as a conservation biologist. My academic background does leave me in a position where I might express feelings of superiority towards those who don’t have doctorates, should I choose to do so. I do not choose to do so. There are far too many people out there doing really fine work with masters degrees, bachelors degress, and even (occasionally) no degree at all. It isn’t the degree that makes you a scientist, it’s your work. Homer has linked to aspects of his work a number of times now. There is a search engine called Google Scholar that links to the scientific literature. Run Homer’s name through it and you will get hits. Homer is a scientist- end of story.
I have deliberately stayed out of the fake blogger controversy, and will continue to do so. But you might want to back off of your position that Homer isn’t really a scientist. It’s not a winning argument.
HEY DOUG, I truly appreciate your input. I’m somewhat of an abrasive guy, and can be misconstrued. And obviously I have, based on the entry which brought you here. I wasn’t on the attack. I’m not old, but old school; and don’t know how old you are. But when I went to med school, scientists were PhD’s and medical doctors. Anyone else wouldn’t dare call themselves a scientist, especially in a humanitarian field. But thanks for the information. And I appreciate your staying out of the fake blogger thing. I wouldn’t be nearly as upset as I am, if Homer’s entry would’ve been about Science. Better yet, he could’ve commented on my blog, rather than making it a drama. But that’s my opinion, on the matter.
And Homer, as I re-read this entry, I can see why you would think I was calling you a liar. But I wasn’t, in fact I didn’t even use those words. I do think that your contempt for me and Steve has been brewing for 6 months. And that you saw writing this entry as an opportunity to segue into something else. You know? The whole Mark Whitecotton thing. And me not having cancer, I wish! Care to prove that I’m lying about that? That’s the point of this blog. You and others write inflammatory statements as if it were the absolute truth; and we’re tired of it. AND HERE I WRITE ONE ENTRY ABOUT YOU AND YOU GO BALLISTIC? AND YET, WHEN STEVE AND I REACTED IN THE SAME MANNER MONTHS AGO, OVER THINGS WRITTEN ABOUT US – WE WERE TOLD THAT SOMEONE WHO WAS TRULY NOT GUILTY WOULDN’T REACT THE WAY WE DID. WHAT’S UP WITH THE DOUBLE STANDARD? THIS REALLY IS HARASSMENT. PERHAPS YOU FEEL YOU’RE DOING A DUTY, AS YOU RIGHTEOUSLY PROCLAIM TO BE. BUT IT’S HARASSMENT, BUD. When I signed up to become a blogger, I don’t recall reading that there was an investigative blogging commission. Could you direct me to that link? Because obviously you’re a member of the board. And I wish I could go to your blog and say, “You’re right, I lied, and I’m so glad it isn’t true (the cancer).” Lastly Homer, do you care to share where I stated that you threatened me or other’s with death???? Unless you’re admitting to being involved in addresses being posted on blogs (which I do believe you’re involvoed on those troll blogs) which has led to us being threatened in the real world! Is that what you’re saying? I’m trying to clarify, not accuse, so don’t go postal on me, please!
I have to agree with Doug here. I have a sister who has nothing but a bachelors degree and has worked as a Scientist her whole career. She is a geologist specializing in ground water. The Governor of our state of Maine refers to her as a scientist, even without a Ph.D. With a Ph.D or an MD, one is referred to as a Doctor…..A scientist is someone who uses and practices the sciences in their work capacity.
I was listening to NPR yesterday and they were interviewing a lobsterman in Maine who also has a penchant for studying the rise and fall of the fish population in the waters of Penobscot Bay. He has a college degree, but no Ph.D and the interviewer referred to him as a scientist throughout the program.
I have another sister with a Ph.D who is not a scientist at all, so it works both ways.
just sayin’…….
Thanks for your input. I appreciate open dialogue that stays on topic.
Josh,
I’m purposely leaving this comment rather than sending you an email. I’d like for the naysayers to see my thoughts.
You know I’m on your side, man! But you need to do 2 things for me, please. 1) When you comment on my blog, you need to either not leave a link to a blog, or leave a link to your personal blog; rather than this site. 2) Please don’t put my blog’s URL down in entries you write. I understand your intent, but I need to distance myself from all of this. I appreciate everything you’ve done for me. And always support your perspective, even the few times when I’ve disagreed.
Not a problem, bud.
xoxo
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